Persona 5 Gender Options
 

So a few (ok, perhaps more than a few) individuals are upset that P4: The Golden will not have the female gender option that P3P had. Well, there's always Persona 5 to look forward to and here's your chance to voice your opinion.

Pretty straightforward: Which gender options would you like to see for the protagonist in Persona 5? Male only? Female only? Or both male and female like P3P?

I don't see how a poll gauging popular opinion of gender options for Persona 5 has anything to do with a recommendations/suggestion thread for Persona 5.

Anyways I won't be responding to anymore posts in this thread in order to restrain myself from influencing anyone's decision with my bias.

For science, you monsters.

The story written from a female point of view mainly would be cool, or at least different.

Firstly, you do realize that the general point of a poll is to gauge individual suggestions, perspectives, and preferences, right?

Secondly, that's not a suggestion topic. Those go in the suggestion forums.

Thirdly, your thread is in the wrong place. A-I was pointing out that there was already a perfect venue for your survey in that thread. B-If you HAD to have your own thread, you post it in the Persona forums.

Simple?

I don't like fighting over the internet, thus this will be my last reply (fo' realz).

Did I not say the same thing? Was it necessary for me to state the "popular opinion of the public?" I've no idea how I've confused you into believing that I don't know what the purpose of a poll is after I've stated its purpose.

We can sit here and define what a "suggestion topic" details, but I believe a thread titled "What do you want in Persona 5?" screams "HAY GUYZ, LETS GIVE ATLUS SUGGESTTIONZ FOR PERSONA 5". Especially when the original post contains suggestions for persona 5 such as having birthday parties, increasing social link lengths, etc. The OP even states "Lets start giving Atlus ideas for Persona 5 !"... what about this isn't a suggestion thread again?

Oh and perhaps the admin stating that the tech support email is not supposed to be used for sending ideas, and the same admin later explaining that Atlus U.S.A. does not make the games it publishes (and thus sending suggestions to them is near-pointless) would help tip of that it is in fact a suggestion thread?


So you want me to hijack that thread (started in 2009) and tally each individual post instead of using a system that's already in place to tally results? Unless there's a way of starting a poll in another persons thread that I'm unaware of; even still the idea of using that thread is ridiculous.


Which forum would you prefer I place this in? Under the Persona heading I see no sub-forum for "Persona 5" or "Future Games". There are 3 options: Talk about Persona 1 for PSP, talk about Persona 3/FES, and talk about Persona 4. Because of this I decided to post in the General forum described as "Discussion about Atlus and its library of games".



Well, if you were just trolling I hope you have a thoroughly full belly now.

Guys you are both right :) (Grabs popcorn)

Dis gon be gud.

I'll get the soda!

I'm not entirely sure what John's point was but I think part of it is: (in general) even though its location is not wholly accurate, a poll like this would be more appropriate under say, Persona 4, then out in this field. A lot of the threads dealing with P5 are in there, since (IMO) the closest possible place to discuss the sequel is in the threads for the last entry in a series.

Beyond that, I kind of see both yer points and don't understand where the debate came about..lol..

Personally, in terms of the OP/poll, I would love to see both sex's available, but I think Atlus could go about it either way depending on their focus.

If they are very hard-set on the game feeling like a story and the player merely interacting with it and playing through the moments, then I see them skipping the dual sex option, as they'll likely not want to take their original vision and then alter it to shoehorn in a alternate character...

If Atlus is looking for the gamer to feel like a participant in the story, and thus feel more of a bond/empathy with their avatar in the game, I think it would see the game having either sex available (as well as both sides of the dating options open, Gay, straight, and bi. ) Wow how keen, a bi-sexual rpg MC.. *chuckles* As well with this empathy, character customization would be a benefit too, but they could only pull that off really if they nixed the old school anime cut scenes altogether, or swapped out using the in game engine graphics tweaked out a bit instead (like we see in a lot of games now).

I have the strange mindset that if they were to make the MC gay or bi, it would have to be female. I feel like that way, people could look at it and say "Oh cool, something new" instead of throwing hate its way or just looking at it as another stereotypical gay character. I also feel like it'd be easier to get a message out with a female main character as such.
But this is persona, not anything with deep meaning. So I guess I'm just rambling.

Either, but not both.

If they added both genders, they'd likely have to work about 1.5-2 times as much as normal, and they could easily use that time to...well, add something more important to the game. So, yeah, I could probably say that I WOULD mind seeing both options. I'd rather have one serious arc than two 'not as serious' ones.

Whichever it is, though (M/F), I think a bit more...diversity *cough* wouldn't hurt all that much. Though I'm afraid of the backlash that they'd get if they added a gay/bi option...

Personally, I'd be even more happy if they scrapped the whole "feel like you're the main character" thing altogether, but I'll save that for another time...

I agree with Sacrosanct. It would be easier to make cut-scenes and develop relationships. Making a good, deep development would be much more difficult with more choices. (then again .. they'd probably pull it off fairly well)

Besides .. imo makes it a "set" mc easier to identify with him than with an individual character -> thus more empathy.
I didn't mind the whole bi or homosexual thing in games like Dragon Age, but I overall prefer set characters for the whole plot. Furthermore are most set mc silent protagonists which makes it pretty easy to feel like them, since they have open features..
I do agree that detailed characters like those of some/most FF parts or something alike may have the opposite effect.

Well, that aside, I haven't had any problems at all playing male characters as a female - though other's opinions may differ.

if it doesn't have option, it isn't worth my time and interest.


P3P is the only one in the series that values equality and choice for MC. Definitely the best one IMO, despite the hardware it had to work with.

This poll is biased, there's no transgendered option.

I would love to see the MC able to date guys and girls; you don't have to choose to date a guy if you don't want to, for instance. It'd be similar to the romance/friendship options in 4, only with more characters, I should think.

Sigh, I remember back in the day when Persona was all about demon negotiations and creating personas, not about your gender and who you'd like to date.

I've noticed so as well. Kinda... Interesting, no?

I'm fine the way it is now. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way.

In any case, it's no use derailing this thread any further.

How is DC derailing the... Oh hell, never mind. I give up.

I agree with the concept of one or the other but not both, though. Why take a strongly narrative driven game and dilute it into two weaker halves? It's going in the opposite direction of everything Persona (especially the newer two) is supposedly about.

True, there should also be an option for an amorphous blob.

This is the problem you get when it adds dating sim elements. Though personally I felt it was always about the story, but I'm the kind of gamer who loves a good story.

Please don't start that here. You'd be cross paths with the wrong guy on the wrong day.

I'm gonna go one step beyond gander and say their should be a nationality option.

ATLUS, where is my option for "angry Greek"?

Greeks are never angry. The government lies. Greeks are a happy bunch that have found two-hundred medicinal uses for Windex.

Is that supposed to be some kind of threat? If so it isn't working.

I have no clue what you think I am starting but you can sit and spin on it bub.

The way I read it was as if you were saying "Well, that's plenty rediculous, so let's make it even more so!" I have a strong dislike for those who thrash the group mentioned. I'm sure you didn't mean that when you posted it, but when I read it, I was pretty mad and stressed. I apologize for misreading your post (which I very much believe and would like to believe that I did) and responding in such a manner.
Also, "bub" is incorrect. I'll accept "bludering fool" instead.

You definitely read me wrong on that one. There was a bit of poking fun at the thread, but mostly I was just joking around. No problem though, I understand that the subject can be touchy for people.

Nice movie reference. I didn't know you liked romantic comedies.

What would a shoggoth have as a persona?

Azathoth