3DS Soul Hackers announced!

[Dharos]

Not to be the pessimist in the thread, but isn't this a sequel to Devil Summoner for the Saturn which was ported to the PSX and more recently the PSP, none of which were ever localized? I know AtlusUSA has a better track record than before of bringing things over, but I think I will keep my hopes low just in case.

[KhamanV]

There is an original Devil Summoner that didn't make it over here, but we did get the other two games in the general Summoner line - both Raidou Kuzunoha games. Wikipedia states that the reason we didn't get Soul Hackers was because Sony refused Atlus. I rather doubt that Nintendo will refuse 'em if they ask.

[Dharos]

Originally Posted by KhamanV

There is an original Devil Summoner that didn't make it over here, but we did get the other two games in the general Summoner line - both Raidou Kuzunoha games. Wikipedia states that the reason we didn't get Soul Hackers was because Sony refused Atlus. I rather doubt that Nintendo will refuse 'em if they ask.

Yes that's the Devil Summoner I was talking about, it's simply called, Devil Summoner. And I just read Nintendo had apparently it's first Annual Loss ever, link , plus didn't SMT DS Overclocked do worse than expected both critically and in the sales department. I'm not saying it's not gonna happen, or that you or anyone shouldn't be excited, just that I, personally, am cautiously optimistic.

[KhamanV]

I can get behind 'cautiously optimistic,' but I can't help adding some 'zomg please god' bounce to mine.

[Kakizaki]

Originally Posted by Dharos

Not to be the pessimist in the thread, but isn't this a sequel to Devil Summoner for the Saturn which was ported to the PSX and more recently the PSP, none of which were ever localized? I know AtlusUSA has a better track record than before of bringing things over, but I think I will keep my hopes low just in case.

There were some technical issues with the PSP port of Devil Summoner that would have made a localization difficult. The first Devil Summoner was never ported to the PSX.

Originally Posted by inzanagi_the_creator

Then again, it is much easier to purchase two 3DS (JP/NA) as opposed to finding a copy of the PS1 edition.

Huh? Half of the copies listed on Ebay are the PSX version.

[Kakizaki]

Official website for Soul Hackers has launched:

http://dssh.atlusnet.jp/

[Yukichin]

Originally Posted by Dharos

Yes that's the Devil Summoner I was talking about, it's simply called, Devil Summoner. And I just read Nintendo had apparently it's first Annual Loss ever, link , plus didn't SMT DS Overclocked do worse than expected both critically and in the sales department. I'm not saying it's not gonna happen, or that you or anyone shouldn't be excited, just that I, personally, am cautiously optimistic.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/s...or-overclocked

It has an 80% at Metacritic, with an 84% for the original release, not to mention it sold out online quite quickly.

[MikeDanger1]

and of course devil survivor was a port of a 2 year old game that was for 19.99 at the time. soul hackers hasn't even been in english as of yet.

[Foobar]

So I was reading around the wikis and saw that Soul Hackers for Playstation was a game that SCEA refused. I'm assuming this is back when Steve Race was heading up SCEA and they were in that "We don''t need no stinkin' RPGs and 2D games" phase.

You know, before that FFVII and Castlevania: SotN thing happened and embarassed them.

Than again, someone just posted that.

Oh well, lol@Steve Race. I wonder if he'll ever live that nonsense down. I always found it ironic he ended up CEO of Majesco.

[Kakizaki]

^Some of that mindset probably existed at the time, although this would have been a full year after both of those titles. I do remember that the Atlus USA website did have Soul Hackers related content (banners or tabs or maybe just a teaser? I can't remember completely) on it back in the fall of '98. I would frequently check for updates, on both Soul Hackers and on a then recently announced Thousand Arms, during my computer science class.

[MikeDanger1]

@Alexis58 how you know?

[Kenji]

Originally Posted by Yukichin

It has an 80% at Metacritic, with an 84% for the original release, not to mention it sold out online quite quickly.

Well, yeah, Atlus USA only prints as many copies as they think will sell. Also keeps bargain bin prices off their games' stickers.

The only MegaTens that don't sell out are the PSP games, 1) because Old Persona isn't as popular as New Persona (I'm sorry to say, for good reason), and 2) PSN makes stock theoretically infinite and keeps prices static.

Anyway, the only thing I can imagine keeping "Soul Hackers 3DS" over in Japan is if whatever issues kept Devil Summoner PSP over there pop up again. Otherwise, we can reasonably expect it. After all, we got King Abaddon and Overclocked, so I'm pretty sure Atlus USA is contractually obligated.

[Dharos]

[quote=Yukichin;283762]

Originally Posted by Dharos

http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/s...or-overclocked

It has an 80% at Metacritic, with an 84% for the original release, not to mention it sold out online quite quickly.

I wasn't 100% sure of that part which is why I started the sentence as a question, I do however, must say out of those 18 critics sites/publications I recognize 3, the majority of rest seem to be Nintendo fansites or such. And just to reiterate, I was just expressing my personal opinion and expectations of a possible NA release, nothing more, nothing less.

[Kenji]

Though, honestly, who gives a damn what the critics say?

Beyond the personal, if I had to choose between critical accolades and high sales, I'd take the high sales any day of the week. If I sell tens of millions of copies with the critics snarling at me for "destroying art," I'll laugh all the way to the bank.

Hell, it'd be even more joyous because the critics were fuming so.

[Dharos]

Originally Posted by Kenji

Though, honestly, who gives a damn what the critics say?

Beyond the personal, if I had to choose between critical accolades and high sales, I'd take the high sales any day of the week. If I sell tens of millions of copies with the critics snarling at me for "destroying art," I'll laugh all the way to the bank.

Hell, it'd be even more joyous because the critics were fuming so.

I must know, are you mole from Activision?

[Yukichin]

Originally Posted by Kenji

Well, yeah, Atlus USA only prints as many copies as they think will sell. Also keeps bargain bin prices off their games' stickers.

The only MegaTens that don't sell out are the PSP games, 1) because Old Persona isn't as popular as New Persona (I'm sorry to say, for good reason), and 2) PSN makes stock theoretically infinite and keeps prices static.

Anyway, the only thing I can imagine keeping "Soul Hackers 3DS" over in Japan is if whatever issues kept Devil Summoner PSP over there pop up again. Otherwise, we can reasonably expect it. After all, we got King Abaddon and Overclocked, so I'm pretty sure Atlus USA is contractually obligated.

Yes, although my post was replying to the thought that Overclocked neither sold well nor was received well.


[quote=Dharos;283808]

Originally Posted by Yukichin

I wasn't 100% sure of that part which is why I started the sentence as a question, I do however, must say out of those 18 critics sites/publications I recognize 3, the majority of rest seem to be Nintendo fansites or such. And just to reiterate, I was just expressing my personal opinion and expectations of a possible NA release, nothing more, nothing less.

Scrolling through, hardly any of them seem to be Nintendo sites to me, and even if they were, the game's on a Nintendo console; that has no bearing on its rating, only possibly on the people who review it.

That being said, you didn't express solely your opinion; you also said it was received badly and sold badly, which was false.

[Dharos]

Originally Posted by Yukichin

Scrolling through, hardly any of them seem to be Nintendo sites to me, and even if they were, the game's on a Nintendo console; that has no bearing on its rating, only possibly on the people who review it.

That being said, you didn't express solely your opinion; you also said it was received badly and sold badly, which was false.

Really, NintendoPower, Nintendo Life, Nintendo Gamer, Nintendo WorldReport, huh, must have been my imagination, anyway I just said I wasn't 100% sure about the fact it was received thus, which is why I started the sentence that way.

[Kenji]

Originally Posted by Dharos

I must know, are you mole from Activision?

Nah, I just like putting the pretentious in their place. Beneath me.

[Dharos]

Originally Posted by Kenji

Nah, I just like putting the pretentious in their place. Beneath me.

Good for you, finally someone beneath you, must be a first one eh?

Edit: Also leaving this thread, not that I don't love getting trolled for no better reason than voicing my opinion. Anyway troll away, I'm off!

[Yukichin]

Originally Posted by Dharos

Really, NintendoPower, Nintendo Life, Nintendo Gamer, Nintendo WorldReport, huh, must have been my imagination, anyway I just said I wasn't 100% sure about the fact it was received thus, which is why I started the sentence that way.

Again: of COURSE Nintendo-related sites will review it; it's a 3DS game. That doesn't make them biased.

Again: there are also ZTGameDomain, GameCritics, RPGFan, GamesRadar, MEGamers, GamingExcellence, and Machinima, amongst others. More non-strictly-Nintendo ones than ones that are indeed all about Ninty.

[Kenji]

My, the skin sure is thin, all up in here. To be perfectly honest, I thought Dharos was in on the fun. I had forgotten just how dead serious people can get about the serious business of Artsiness.

What really matters for Overclocked is that the initial shipment sold out. That was pretty damn good for Atlus, it means their initial expectations were met. Now, I haven't been checking Amazon recently, but if the second shipment sells out, too, that's all the better.

Again, who cares what the critics say? They're just dudes with word processors and an internet connection. Customers, now that's what really matters. The fact that this (eminently correct) idea can be taken by others as "trollan" is cartoonishly amusing to me.

[LTX88]

Another reason to question myself why I haven't bought myself a 3DS, let alone a DS. Even with all the games that has come out of the DS/3DS to justify a purchase, this one is really pushing my limits for how long I can hold out. Soul Hacker is one of the primary Megaten game I want to play, even Strange Journey and Devil Survivor wasn't enough to tip me that direction.

[Saburo Hikari]

I'm definitely excited to try an old school SMT game I've never played before, but I'm not so sure if I want to get a 3DS right away. I'm still patiently waiting to see if Nintendo will release a new version of the 3DS with the second analog nub attached. At the moment I don't want to buy the current 3DS, then buy a bulky add on for $20 more.

[Devil Hacker]

I would love to see this game localized, I think we all would

Now that golden has been announced

etrian IV 3ds
devil summoner 3ds
Eternal punishment psp


are all on the plate to announce at e3 hopefully

[Nephlabobo]

Originally Posted by Devil Hacker

I would love to see this game localized, I think we all would

Now that golden has been announced

etrian IV 3ds
devil summoner 3ds
Eternal punishment psp


are all on the plate to announce at e3 hopefully

Good point.

Please don't disappoint Atlus!

And why are people arguing about this game? Wasn't it beloved on its release?

[NG14916]

I'll be getting this game as soon as it releases if it's localized. Can't have too much Atlus on 3DS, in my opinion. Does anyone know if this game's going to be in 3D?

[MikeDanger1]

With the announcement of Persona 4:The Golden, Do you guys think this game still has a good chance of being localized? I don't have a Vita nor care to buy one at the moment, and my copy of Persona 4 for PS2 has been finished a few times.

But this game is a whole 'nother story. It hasn't been translated in english, so there's no way I can play it nor fully enjoy a walkthrough on youtube.

So if it gets localized it will be a lot fresher here than in japan.

If not....I'll pray for fan translation.

[Saburo Hikari]

Originally Posted by MikeDanger1

With the announcement of Persona 4:The Golden, Do you guys think this game still has a good chance of being localized? I don't have a Vita nor care to buy one at the moment, and my copy of Persona 4 for PS2 has been finished a few times.

But this game is a whole 'nother story. It hasn't been translated in english, so there's no way I can play it nor fully enjoy a walkthrough on youtube.

So if it gets localized it will be a lot fresher here than in japan.

If not....I'll pray for fan translation.

I'd say the chances that this game will be localized is almost absolutely certain. Atlus USA has been localizing just about every Atlus JP game these days, especially SMT titles. And Persona 2: Innocent Sin was localized after all, which also never had an official NA release.

[Leilee]

I'd also say I think the chances are pretty favorable considering they wanted to translate this game once before.

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by Saburo Hikari

I'm definitely excited to try an old school SMT game I've never played before, but I'm not so sure if I want to get a 3DS right away. I'm still patiently waiting to see if Nintendo will release a new version of the 3DS with the second analog nub attached. At the moment I don't want to buy the current 3DS, then buy a bulky add on for $20 more.

That "bulky add-on" is quite comfortable, actually. It's not terribly portable with it, but then, I only use the Circle Pad Pro at home. There are plenty of options in these games when it's not there.

If you're waiting for a new model you're just going to keep on waiting for the next model and the model after that. Handhelds and mobile devices seldom ever are finalized.

I want to wait out for a Vita with some internal memory and added bulk to make the dual analog more ergonomic. It's not going to happen. The designer seems to want to make a thinner model. So I should probably get the one we have now before we have another PSP3000 or PSP Go on our hands.