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Old 10-29-2009, 01:44 PM   #1
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Default Persona 3 Protagonist - Will Elizabeth Or Anyone Ever Save His Soul

I've played the game one time through and I can't help but feel a little sad that the protagonist dies in the end. He saves the world and then gets kind of ripped off since he only live to his graduation day. And since I've played persona 4 and Elizabeth mentioned the reason why her sister left. I can't help but want the next installment of the game to leave something that will help realease him from his prison.

But hey its just a thought thats been nagging me for a bit. I'm a sucker for a happy ending.

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Old 10-29-2009, 10:05 PM   #2
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You mixed up Margaret and Elizabeth. Elizabeth is the one who left the Velvet Room to go save his soul.

I have a funny feeling that replacing P3 MC with FeMC might be her way of doing it...
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Probably not.

From what I've heard, the male and female protags are actually twins (guess the fanwank wasn't off-base, after all) and when the player chooses one, the other dies in the accident that killed the parents. If that was Elizabeth's doing, she failed her objective, big time.

Incidentally, one of the criticisms from the Famitsu review was that the female storyline didn't deviate significantly from the male's, leading to the same end... it's really only the Social Links that are different.

Also, in regards to P3's ending, while it certainly has its tearjerker qualities, it was far from a tragedy. After all, the protagonist succeeded, managing to indefinitely stall the self-destruction of mankind at only the cost of himself. Not only that, but he managed to keep his promise and see his friends to Graduation, even though he could've just as easily dropped dead upon casting the Great Seal.
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Still when Margret's statement about her sister going off to find away to release the blue haired boy. I can only think that maybe the next installment of the game will direct the plot in a minor/ big way to include Elizabeths quest. And your right it wasn't tragedy but you let on MC die and the other live just seem wrong to me. I mean its great story telling don't get me wrong but if P4 MC ending is like a way to make up for it. I still I can't help but feel bad that the pro for P3 dies and we get no way of rescuing him. To me its a total rip off. And FES ticked me off even more with Aegis leaving him there. Even though I understand why.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:19 AM   #5
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I think MC coming back alive in a later game would kill the emotional impact that the end of The Journey had. It would seem cheap if anything.

They're better of leaving it as it is. Don't fix what isn't broken.

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I'm with Eggn0g, actually-- I thought that was the perfect end to the game. There really couldn't have been any other.
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When Minato dies I was like... 'Dang, why couldn't that've been Fuuka?' lol jk I like Fuuka but her voice is annoying. It's like
Minato: Per...So...Na [BAM]
Yukari: Wait... that's the wrong evoker!
Minato: Uahhh!
Random Fuuka: No! It can't end like this!
Yukari: What the hell was that!?
{LOOKS AT SCRIPT}
Fuuka: Oh sorry... back in a coupls months! rotfl
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I think MC coming back alive in a later game would kill the emotional impact that the end of The Journey had. It would seem cheap if anything.

They're better of leaving it as it is. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Yeah, I know. It would totally ruin the impact of his sacrifice if they brought him back.

Whenever someone suggests that he should be brought back for P5 I die a little inside.
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Deleted my original post because of how awkward it was. My how different my posts were two and a half years ago.

Anyway, Elizabeth is in Persona 4 Arena, and it has to have something to do with the Persona 3 main character, especially since the Persona she uses is Thanatos.

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I think MC coming back alive in a later game would kill the emotional impact that the end of The Journey had. It would seem cheap if anything.

They're better of leaving it as it is. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Yeah, I know. It would totally ruin the impact of his sacrifice if they brought him back.

Whenever someone suggests that he should be brought back for P5 I die a little inside.
I agree with that a little, but if they were creative enough to do it in a way where it wouldn't be cliché it might be a good idea.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:34 AM   #11
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Maybe, but when they do, what next?

I mean, much of P3 was about your journey, about making your way through life and then die satisfied - Minato achieved that in his short period of time, and for me the ending is satisfying and great. (sad, too, of course) . If he were to be brought back, what would his role be? If he were revived to be just another random appearance, I'd rather pass on that.

And once again, an ancient thread dug up once more
I noticed too late, sorry about that

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Old 06-15-2012, 06:03 PM   #12
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hmmm intrsting but i highly doubt it that we see minato in p5 we all know atlus isnt like capcom and they dont just include characters that appeard in older smt games
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I am the MC and im not satisfied with this ending, i want to live.
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I think MC coming back alive in a later game would kill the emotional impact that the end of The Journey had. It would seem cheap if anything.

They're better of leaving it as it is. Don't fix what isn't broken.
This.

Would you watch a movie called "Hamlet 2", wherein everyone miraculously sprung back to life and had a new adventure?
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it will need a great story to save him without ruin what he has done

just like all SEES member really miss him and still love him, and suddenly elizabeth come and say there's a way to save him but it will need blablablabla...
and the it will be great to if they live in the dorm again
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I just don't want the whole "MC coming back to life" story in Persona 5.

It would be cool if Atlus decided to leave this story to a Persona 5 spin-off game that also would explain some events that happen in Persona 5.
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I just don't want the whole "MC coming back to life" story in Persona 5.

It would be cool if Atlus decided to leave this story to a Persona 5 spin-off game that also would explain some events that happen in Persona 5.
Yeah I would really like a new story for 5. I'm not really someone who understands why people want a game around bringing the P3 MC back to life. I think that would make for one bad game. Death happens; Just accept it.
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or they can make a new version of P3 in the future

some games company do that don't they?
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I just don't want the whole "MC coming back to life" story in Persona 5.

It would be cool if Atlus decided to leave this story to a Persona 5 spin-off game that also would explain some events that happen in Persona 5.
Yeah I would really like a new story for 5. I'm not really someone who understands why people want a game around bringing the P3 MC back to life. I think that would make for one bad game. Death happens; Just accept it.
Yeah! I mean, I'm not saying that Atlus should just abandon P3/P4's story, specially with the events at the end of Persona 4 Arena. I just want Persona 5 to be focused on something different. Atlus can tie somethings in P5 with, maybe, the Shadow Operatives or maybe that Malevolent Entity without focusing directly on it.

P3's MC is my favorite character in the Persona universe but, just let him rest in peace guys! He sacrificed himself to save the world and almost looks like nobody respects him for doing that =(

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some games company do that don't they?
you mean... like a remake?
We already have Persona 3 FES and Persona 3 Portable so...

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Yeah! I mean, I'm not saying that Atlus should just abandon P3/P4's story, specially with the events at the end of Persona 4 Arena. I just want Persona 5 to be focused on something different. Atlus can tie somethings in P5 with, maybe, the Shadow Operatives or maybe that Malevolent Entity without focusing directly on it.

P3's MC is my favorite character in the Persona universe but, just let him rest in peace guys! He sacrificed himself to save the world and almost looks like nobody respects him for doing that =(

the only reason for me to wish that the MC back is so persona 3 story will continue, i really love persona 3 storyline, it makes me feels like i live in the game, and i dont really like to play aigis as the MC

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you mean... like a remake?
We already have Persona 3 FES and Persona 3 Portable so...
why not? if there are enough people that wish so
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As many have said, the protagonist or main character (I hate the manga only/non-canon name "Minato" ) is gone and is gone for good.

Bringing him back doesn't seem like a great idea, it would just be a really really cheap way to please annoying fans. Still I wouldn't mind seeing him again like in a spirit form, mystical manifestation of his will, force ghost or whatever crap they can come up with, but the very thought of watching him again among the living, making friends and going to school just disgusts me.

It was already a bit irritating watching Atlus bringing Chidori and Shinji back from the dead in the re-releases. This is a Shin Megami Tensei game my friends, bad things happen just like in the real world and there's nothing you can do about it, if you want a happy go lucky game where everybody who is good survives and every bad guy gets punished go play a Final Fantasy, and hey! even Square wouldn't think about bringing Aeris (Yes, A-E-R-I-S) back!
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the only reason for me to wish that the MC back is so persona 3 story will continue, i really love persona 3 storyline, it makes me feels like i live in the game, and i dont really like to play aigis as the MC
I don't really want him to come back but if it happens, I think it shouldn't happen in a main game.

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why not? if there are enough people that wish so
I think there isn't enough people that wish for it...

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As many have said, the protagonist or main character (I hate the manga only/non-canon name "Minato" ) is gone and is gone for good.

Bringing him back doesn't seem like a great idea, it would just be a really really cheap way to please annoying fans. Still I wouldn't mind seeing him again like in a spirit form, mystical manifestation of his will, force ghost or whatever crap they can come up with, but the very thought of watching him again among the living, making friends and going to school just disgusts me.

It was already a bit irritating watching Atlus bringing Chidori and Shinji back from the dead in the re-releases. This is a Shin Megami Tensei game my friends, bad things happen just like in the real world and there's nothing you can do about it, if you want a happy go lucky game where everybody who is good survives and every bad guy gets punished go play a Final Fantasy, and hey! even Square wouldn't think about bringing Aeris (Yes, A-E-R-I-S) back!


Two things this post fail:

1) persona no longer has the smt tittle so it doesnt have to follow SMT standards anymore (P4 didnt for sure)

2) In FFX Tidus Dies So FF doesnt equal to happy ending and the XIII series too.

He will come back like Tidus did in FFX-2 so as long as we "minato fans" keep asking we will soon have him again. Besides Elizabeth seem very determined to do it and im cheering for her.

Minato alreay suffered enough and there are a lot of girls that want him back so people dont be selfish.
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2) In FFX Tidus Dies So FF doesnt equal to happy ending and the XIII series too.

He will come back like Tidus did in FFX-2 so as long as we "minato fans" keep asking we will soon have him again. Besides Elizabeth seem very determined to do it and im cheering for her.
Speaking of Tidus and X/X-2, I really wish they kept Tidus dead. I hated that guy.
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2) In FFX Tidus Dies So FF doesnt equal to happy ending and the XIII series too.

He will come back like Tidus did in FFX-2 so as long as we "minato fans" keep asking we will soon have him again. Besides Elizabeth seem very determined to do it and im cheering for her.
Speaking of Tidus and X/X-2, I really wish they kept Tidus dead. I hated that guy.
You gotta feel sorry for Yuna, thats why i wanted him alive.
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I hope not. The beauty of his story is that he sacrificed himself so that we may live. That's why his ultimate Persona was Messiah. It's been perfectly told and wrapped up, and there's no reason for him to come back. Let's not let P3 fall into the same stew of mediocrity that The Return of Superman gave us. When someone's dead, especially when someone dies for a very specific reason, they should stay that way, and let those who remain honor their memory.
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You gotta feel sorry for Yuna, thats why i wanted him alive.
Actually, most of that cast wasn't very likeable. Tidus was the only one I actually hated though. I couldn't feel bad for Yuna because she was an uninteresting and boring character to begin with. Maybe it would have been more tolerable if the voices weren't so dull. They all sounded bored out of their minds. I like FFX as a game. It's combat system was one of better ones and I actually liked the Sphere Grid, but as a story and for it's characters I thought it was terrible. That is just my own opinion though.
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Oh boy! How I loved Final Fantasy X, the story, characters and world building weren't that great compared with previous installments of the series but it sure had a great gameplay for it's time. I spent hours making my aeons the strongest

Anyway, back to the original topic. I don't care if P4A and Golden dropped the SMT family name (Even if the Persona series never had it in japan to begin with) since this isn't a thread about those games, I own the three editions of P3 and they are all called Shin Megami Tensei, and correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the Persona series born from a SMT? I recall reading something about a SMT character directly appearing in the first game.

Whatever the case is, all of us have to agree that the majority (if this thread is anything to go by) doesn't think that reviving the P3 Protagonist is the best way to continue the series. I want to see what is the next thing for Persona, I really hope that we get to see Persona 5 in PS3, XBOX 360 or even the Wii U but something tells me that the next game will be on Nintendo 3DS or PS Vita.
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Whatever the case is, all of us have to agree that the majority (if this thread is anything to go by) doesn't think that reviving the P3 Protagonist is the best way to continue the series. I want to see what is the next thing for Persona, I really hope that we get to see Persona 5 in PS3, XBOX 360 or even the Wii U but something tells me that the next game will be on Nintendo 3DS or PS Vita.
weird..was there always an "x" in your name? i never noticed that.. lol.

I generally agree with you and what yer saying. Personally, I think if they do another SMT game like Nocturne or one of the earlier in the series (IE not persona but SMT themed) I think it'll end up on the vita or 3ds or one of the portables, since it is a known and popular franchise to a degree, but not a guarantee to print money.

if they plot to make another persona game, I am strongly suspecting they'd drop it on the current gen of platforms that they are not working on and have experience supporting. I still believe that the time and effort to utilize the Catherine game on current hardware which displays their ability to model large, small and real world/fantasy world imagery, all of which would be necesary for a persona game. Think of it:

look at the basic generated graphics for most of the more recent persona games: laberynth's constructed of mostly flat geometrically squared mazes with some rendered objects and "props" to windowdress the environment and hide the fact it is as simple as it is. What was the look of Catherine's puzzle gameplay? Flat geometric designs with additional objects and background renders used as window dressing to cover for the fact that everything was fairly simple in design.

Then look at the anime like characters from p3/4 and look at the updated models of Vincent and friends in the bar. The same for the bar environment/restaurant/cafe/apartment. Fairly detailed environments that would also work well if they were similarly used in a Persona game.

I've always said Catherine was something of a tech demo for future games. So honestly I still think it'll end up being a really nice example of what they will try and do when the next game hits. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if the mazes that you explore in Persona 5 also have a single large boss battle chasing the characters to add a sense of urgency, tension, and fear into the game. I mean.. Imagine tearing up tartarus with an angry bride monster on your ass.

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That would be awesome, man if Catherine was just a tech demo imagine what they would do with the experience they got from it. Loved Catherine everything in the game was just perfect, even hanging out in the bar playing with the jukebox was fun.

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