Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier Exceed

[CrazyArcadia]

I actually liked the fact that the voices remained japanese. Since this is a -very- japanese game (I mean, all the anime-cliches in there... it IS for a special audience over here) I thought it was fitting for the atmosphere. Making it in English would feel like an perverted version of all the saturday morning cartoons about robots and universes clashin' I kinda have the same sentiment towards fighting-games with japanese origins. But of course, I'd respect english voices for maybe expanding the audience, wouldn't be a dealbreaker!

[spyrobo]

the first one was great the second one is too,will we see it in the us??most likely no......

[CrazyArcadia]

Nah, don't give up hope. Even if it doesn't show up for the next 1-2 years... maybe Atlus releases it when the 3DS is already rockin' and Namco doesn't take so much for the license anymore because "who in his right mind would release more OLD-DS games anymore?" see Super Robot Taisen OG1&2 on GBA (I mean, OG1 was already 5 years old when it came out in the US ) or the countless high-quality PS2 games we got when everyone else already moved on to next gen?

[Tom Phoenix]

Originally Posted by CrazyArcadia

Nah, don't give up hope. Even if it doesn't show up for the next 1-2 years... maybe Atlus releases it when the 3DS is already rockin' and Namco doesn't take so much for the license anymore because "who in his right mind would release more OLD-DS games anymore?" see Super Robot Taisen OG1&2 on GBA (I mean, OG1 was already 5 years old when it came out in the US ) or the countless high-quality PS2 games we got when everyone else already moved on to next gen?

Unfortunately, OG1&2 are precisely an example why we are unlikely to see anything like that ever again. Besides it's niché appeal, the fact that the games were translated late in Game Boy Advance's lifecycle and the fact that OG1 was released in Japan several years prior were probably important reasons why the games didn't do so well in terms of sales. Afterall, the majority of the handheld market had shifted to the DS by then and many established fans probably already had the Japanese version of the game. The fact that official translations of SRW games were entirely unprecedented prior to OG1 didn't help either.

The point is, considering this negative experience, it is unlikely that Atlus USA will ever again commit itself to localising a game late in a platform's lifecycle, especially considering the 3DS seems poised to replace the DS as the handheld of choice even faster than the DS replaced the GBA (although nothing is certain).

With that in mind, the period between this month and the end of February/beginning of March can preety much be regarded as the "judgement period", where the fate of potential EXCEED and Lord of Elemental translation projects will be decided. If Atlus USA doesn't announce anything by March, then there will practically be no hope that we will see either of them localised.

So all we can do for the next four months is clench our fists and hope for the best.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Originally Posted by Tom Phoenix

Unfortunately, OG1&2 are precisely an example why we are unlikely to see anything like that ever again. Besides it's niché appeal, the fact that the games were translated late in Game Boy Advance's lifecycle and the fact that OG1 was released in Japan several years prior were probably important reasons why the games didn't do so well in terms of sales. Afterall, the majority of the handheld market had shifted to the DS by then and many established fans probably already had the Japanese version of the game. The fact that official translations of SRW games were entirely unprecedented prior to OG1 didn't help either.

The point is, considering this negative experience, it is unlikely that Atlus USA will ever again commit itself to localising a game late in a platform's lifecycle, especially considering the 3DS seems poised to replace the DS as the handheld of choice even faster than the DS replaced the GBA (although nothing is certain).

With that in mind, the period between this month and the end of February/beginning of March can preety much be regarded as the "judgement period", where the fate of potential EXCEED and Lord of Elemental translation projects will be decided. If Atlus USA doesn't announce anything by March, then there will practically be no hope that we will see either of them localised.

So all we can do for the next four months is clench our fists and hope for the best.

Maybe Tekken X Street Fighter will also cause a diversion in in the legal rights since Tekken & OG are owned by Namco Bandai, & we know which is more popular & the advantage Atlus has be cause of this

[Havenchild]

The first game was amazing. I loved the animation as well as the Jap VA. I would love to have the sequel released in the US. Please Atlus >:

[Tom Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Steel Greyfalke

Maybe Tekken X Street Fighter will also cause a diversion in in the legal rights since Tekken & OG are owned by Namco Bandai, & we know which is more popular & the advantage Atlus has be cause of this

That game is still ways off, though, since it was revealed that it wouldn't be finished before Street Fighter x Tekken is released. As such, I doubt it will play (or has played) much of a role in negotiations.

[CrazyArcadia]

@ Tom Phoenix
Ok, you got some points... then again, Nintendo itself wants to keep the old DS alive for some while longer... but usually Nintendosystems get dropped like hot potatoes as soon as the next one comes out (at least in the west... the only exclusions I can think of would be the NES and the GBA, both of which got some cool games even by Nintendo itself after their succsesor had already arrived...). But you're probably right about Atlus at least announcing their last DS-titles in the next 4 months...
Keeping my fingers crossed, but it seems lately the only new announced titles are either related to Naruto, MMORPGs or western looking action-rpgs
Oh well, it's not that there aren't other games that rock hard (Persona 2 PSP made me j*** my pants in exitement).

I still have faith! Atlus! GO FIGHT THE POWER!
unrelated - or related - sidenote: Anyone got the japanese Exceed special edition with artbook etc.? How was it? I didn't buy it back then since I thought localisation of that game would be obligatory and I didn't want to double-dip... the artbook any good?

[Phoenix_Apollo]

I think Atlus will stick to the DS a little bit longer than that. It's the most popular handheld out there. And when Atlus was still supporting the PS2, the most popular console out there, they were still doing so three years after the release of the PS3, and Atlus was publishing games for the GBA two years after the DS. Atlus will definitely localize DS stuff for a little while longer, I think. Perhaps the well will dry up in 2012 or 2013 at the latest.

[Tom Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Phoenix_Apollo

I think Atlus will stick to the DS a little bit longer than that. It's the most popular handheld out there. And when Atlus was still supporting the PS2, the most popular console out there, they were still doing so three years after the release of the PS3, and Atlus was publishing games for the GBA two years after the DS. Atlus will definitely localize DS stuff for a little while longer, I think. Perhaps the well will dry up in 2012 or 2013 at the latest.

The thing is, the PS2 was still being supported due to the fact that the console was outselling or at least selling equally as the PS3 until this year. The PS3 and the 360 preety much overshot a significant part of the market, which has resulted in the PS2 still being sold at retail to this very day. If Atlus simply dropped it's PS2 support, it would be giving up on a multi-million installer base that wasn't moving onto the next generation of consoles.

With the 3DS, it's questionable whether this will be the case, especially since the DS replaced the GBA rather rapidly. Plus, as I previously pointed out, Atlus USA has negative experiences in regard to supporting a platfom late in it's lifecycle. While not impossible, I doubt we can expect a repeat performance.

Overall, in regards to EXCEED, any announcement past Marsh is unlikely. So all fans can do is hope Atlus announces something in the next four months.

[Kenji]

Actually, the DS didn't overtake GBA until Brain Age and Nintendogs shot off like rockets, which certainly wasn't immediate. At the moment, we don't know whether the 3DS will see the same level of success or whether it's overshooting the market ($250-$300 is quite a bit to swallow).

That said, that Atlus USA hasn't announced EXCEED yet implies they don't intend to... of course, I could be wrong and I'd love to play it, but I wouldn't be surprised if we never see it.

[Tom Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Kenji

Actually, the DS didn't overtake GBA until Brain Age and Nintendogs shot off like rockets, which certainly wasn't immediate. At the moment, we don't know whether the 3DS will see the same level of success or whether it's overshooting the market ($250-$300 is quite a bit to swallow).

True, but keep in mind that third-party support for the DS was rather poor as well, which certainly isn't the case this time around.

Also, I don't think the 3DS is overshooting the market (and quite frankly, I think the steep price point is more meant to prevent the Wii situation from occuring again). If anything, I think it is cleverly set up by Nintendo so that any attempt by Sony to surpass it via traditional methods (graphics and such) is guaruanteed to overshoot the market.

That said, that Atlus USA hasn't announced EXCEED yet implies they don't intend to... of course, I could be wrong and I'd love to play it, but I wouldn't be surprised if we never see it.

Where did they imply they don't intend to? I would really like to know if you have some sort of quote that contains such an implication.

But yeah, I also wouldn't be suprised if we never see it.

[ShiningxWander]

Don't give up guys! I still have faith in Atlus! xD
I really hope Atlus does localize this game since the first game was so much fun, and EXCEED is even better than the first game, and I want anything Xenosaga related lol.

On a side note, I really love the music in Endless Frontier and EXCEED how about you guys?

[Kenji]

Originally Posted by Tom Phoenix

If anything, I think it is cleverly set up by Nintendo so that any attempt by Sony to surpass it via traditional methods (graphics and such) is guaruanteed to overshoot the market.

Oh, I recognize that the 3DS is meant to disrupt Sony's 3D efforts on the PS3. The question is whether there's a real 3D market for gaming. Really, only time will tell.

Where did they imply they don't intend to? I would really like to know if you have some sort of quote that contains such an implication.

But yeah, I also wouldn't be suprised if we never see it.

Well, it hasn't quite been a year since the game's release, but does Atlus USA usually wait this long to announce games? Ah well, like I said, I'll buy it if they do but I'm not really expecting it.

[persona 3 fan in tinerme]

I Am Might Get Imported Version For Chrismas

[Tom Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Kenji

Oh, I recognize that the 3DS is meant to disrupt Sony's 3D efforts on the PS3. The question is whether there's a real 3D market for gaming. Really, only time will tell.

The 3DS is intended to do a lot of things economically. Disrupt Sony's 3D efforts, conclude the disruption of home consoles in the Japanese market as well as cannibalise the PSP's market share. Overall, it is dedicated to tearing SCE apart, limb by bloody limb.

As for whether there is a market for 3D gaming....given, only time will ultimately answer that question. However, in some ways, stereoscopic 3D is a logical step forward in the advancement of 3D gaming. Just like motion controls were the first actual 3D input device, stereoscopic 3D is the first actual 3D display.

Plus, in my opinion, stereoscopic 3D has much more potential in gaming than it does in movies, since I think the benefits it brings are far more useful in a interactive medium. Ultimately, though, it will be the market that decides whether or not stereoscopic 3D is necessary for the evolution of games.

Where did they imply they don't intend to? I would really like to know if you have some sort of quote that contains such an implication.

But yeah, I also wouldn't be suprised if we never see it.

Well, it hasn't quite been a year since the game's release, but does Atlus USA usually wait this long to announce games? Ah well, like I said, I'll buy it if they do but I'm not really expecting it.[/quote]

With Atlus, it's par for the course for a localisation project to be announced just shortly before release. For example, even though Endless Frontier was released in May 2009 in Japan, Atlus didn't announce it was localising it until February next year (and then proceeded to release it in April).

My claim that any localisation of EXCEED is most likely to be announced in the next four months is precisely based on the time it took to announce Endless Frontier.

[Kenji]

Originally Posted by Tom Phoenix

The 3DS is intended to do a lot of things economically. Disrupt Sony's 3D efforts, conclude the disruption of home consoles in the Japanese market as well as cannibalise the PSP's market share. Overall, it is dedicated to tearing SCE apart, limb by bloody limb.

As for whether there is a market for 3D gaming....given, only time will ultimately answer that question. However, in some ways, stereoscopic 3D is a logical step forward in the advancement of 3D gaming. Just like motion controls were the first actual 3D input device, stereoscopic 3D is the first actual 3D display.

Plus, in my opinion, stereoscopic 3D has much more potential in gaming than it does in movies, since I think the benefits it brings are far more useful in a interactive medium. Ultimately, though, it will be the market that decides whether or not stereoscopic 3D is necessary for the evolution of games.

Well, I won't argue with any of that because... I pretty much agree with everything you said.

I also get the "vague feeling" we both, at some point, read the same articles on the Internet from a "certain personality."

For example, even though Endless Frontier was released in May 2009 in Japan, Atlus didn't announce it was localising it until February next year (and then proceeded to release it in April).

My claim that any localisation of EXCEED is most likely to be announced in the next four months is precisely based on the time it took to announce Endless Frontier.

See, I didn't know how long it took between the original Frontier's Japanese release and American announcement. Research fail on my part.

Guess the next few months will tell the tale.

[Skyeheart]

Oohhh, this looks cool! Please don't leave us hanging like you did when you bailed on the OG Gaiden chapters.

[Kraker2k]

I just hope Atlus don't make any other big translation blunders, like they did towards the of the first game.

Spoilered just in case anyone hasn't completed EF1.

"Raymond Browning" should have been "Lemon Browning"

Do the people at Atlus even know they made an error, or did they change it on purpose?

[Sagadego]

the name thing might be Banpresto's fault not atlus, they've done this before

[Steel Greyfalke]

You Don't think Fighter Roar & The NxC originals are the main problem do you?

[growlanservoter]

Originally Posted by Steel Greyfalke

You Don't think Fighter Roar & The NxC originals are the main problem do you?

I dunno and I dont think we will ever finout. But I believe if it doesnt get a US release its because BAMCO wants human souls as a payment source for the license. ><

[Steel Greyfalke]

Originally Posted by growlanservoter

I dunno and I dont think we will ever finout. But I believe if it doesnt get a US release its because BAMCO wants human souls as a payment source for the license. ><

I wouldnt doubt it espcially since there concentrating on SFxT(this has an excuse), Dragonball , Naruto , it's like COME ON BAMCO,YOU absorbed Banpresto, & More knowlege on your "Niche" Titles are rising and do you want that extra money for your corperation? I Even posted on the sites forum a direct poll , To give Atlus the "Green Light' on the series, but eh My efforts are worthless at that point

[Mahdi]

Dear ATLUS, please localize this game for us

I believe in you. And i know it's just a matter of time.

I don't mind buying 5 EXCEEDs just to support you. Endless frontier is my favorite DS game... I really need to play EXCEED -_-

[Simply_Proto]

I really hope Atlus does localize this game I picked it up the first one when I was in the US and love it and would be a definite import from the US for me.

Also to throw my hat into the mix concerning the 3DS and how Atlus were releasing PS2 games even after the new gen came out.

When the PS3 came out it was expensive but it was only this expensive model in some countries that could play PS2 games. Now no model of the PS3 being sold are backwards compatible with PS2 games (I have a PS3 slim and now i need a new PS2 as mine is dying.><)

With the 3DS though, all previous DS games will work on it. The main thing I'm asked at the game store I work in is 'will the old DS games work on it?' that and the price. I get the feeling even if people jump to the 3DS most will still buy old DS games as they'd be the cheaper option. So even after the 3DS comes out I still see some reason of keeping hope for Atlus maybe localizing this.

Okay after that sidetrack. Please Atlus?<=D

[Mahdi]

Well for some reason i think ATLUS wants to localize it for us... But Bamco are just too stubborn to give them the license

[Haken Browning]

Hey buddies just wanted to say I still support this and would by it in a heartbeat if it got the chance to come over.

[darren8448]

Thanks for posting this...

[Jim]

Just chipping in to say I'd also like to see this localized.

I love this game and most of my friends who own a DS do too and would buy it in an instant, even here in Europe.

[CrimsonFang1408]

I've shown almost all of my friends who have a DS the original Endless Frontier and they all loved it. We're all waiting on Exceed.

But think about it. In Japan, Endless Frontier released in April of 2008 and May 2009 over here in the states. Exceed released in Japan in Feburary 2010 so we might possibly see a release around March or April hopefully.

I seriously want to play Exceed. Me and all of my friends. I support this and will pray for a western localization.