Thanks Atlus for bringing this

[belborn/]

Personally,I prefer a little more Growlanser 4.
But Gungnir is also a great surprise because I never thougt you would still publish a PSP RPG.

[Ronian]

Yeah, I think almost everyone prefered Growlanser.

[Yasumi Matsuno]

^I'll take all the SRPGs I can take, thanks, especially in this day and age where 99% of them never leave Japan.

[cireza]

Thanks for being so great Atlus

[Zoltor]

Glad to see you've come to your senses ATLUS, finally decided to localize actual games worth the effort again, huh.

I was planning to pick up a PSP soon anyway(don't know which model to get though sigh) for a bunch of games, so I'll be adding this to the list

[ShadowRaskolnik]

Originally Posted by Ronian

Yeah, I think almost everyone prefered Growlanser.

Personally I wanted this game more then Growlanser.

Anyway, I also wanted to say thanks to Atlus for bringing this game over and I'll be preordering it as soon as I can.

[Dave3]

^ After owning both a Go and a slim I would definitely just go with a 3000 with a decent sized memory stick.

Also, really happy about this being localized, definitely a day one purchase for me.

[Zoltor]

Originally Posted by ShadowRaskolnik

Personally I wanted this game more then Growlanser.

Anyway, I also wanted to say thanks to Atlus for bringing this game over and I'll be preordering it as soon as I can.

While there's games I would've prefered more(most of which had a snow balls throw in hell of being localized anyway, due to the developer, and exclusive publishing rights BS), yea I wanted this more then Growlanser too.

[Zoltor]

Originally Posted by Dave3

^ After owning both a Go and a slim I would definitely just go with a 3000 with a decent sized memory stick.

Also, really happy about this being localized, definitely a day one purchase for me.

Ok thanks.

[HermanTuttle]

Atlus, baiting fans of Growlanser so aggressively like this, only to pull the rug out from under them, is absolutely unacceptable. You set up a situation where one group of fans would inevitably end up disappointed and upset if their game wasn't the one revealed--hardly a great PR strategy. You're a professional business with a 26-year history, not a jerkweed fan translation group who pulls crap like this because they like to watch the fanboys squirm. You took this childish game way too far, and you shouldn't expect your "faithful" customers to remain as such no matter how you treat them. Release a statement of apology or I will seriously consider boycotting you and Gungnir (which I would have definitely bought if it wasn't announced with this guessing game), and advising all my gaming friends to do so.

Additionally, the conduct of your staff member "lol, forums" on these forums was extremely condescending and rude, and he seems to believe that any criticism of Atlus' marketing practices is "ungrateful." This man needs to lose his job NOW before any more damage is done.

This isn't the era of Working Designs, Atlus. There are actual quality standards in the business of Japanese game localization now. You have yet to fully learn this.

A NeoGAF user summed it up well:

Right, fire up an ad campaign that's doing more to upset gamers than excite them, then tell them they should be grateful for being roped along at all. Easily the most arrogant, obnoxious, unprofessional, ham fisted, and incompetent group of mods on any official publisher/developer forum I've seen.

[DarkRPGMaster]

Uhh Herman, so you know...

Originally Posted by nacht

Oh God, another guessing game

[Tiamat]

I will certainly be pre-ordering this game and I'd like to thank Atlus for releasing it in the US. This whole thing felt rather cruel to Growlanser fans (me included) but since Atlus is teasing a new game starting with G immediately afterward I kinda think Atlus isn't mean enough to tease Growlanser fans twice consecutively like this.

[HermanTuttle]

Even if the second game is Growlanser, the damage is already done, and Atlus' staff have proven themselves to be unprofessional, wheedling douchebags with no respect for their customers. If they don't acknowledge what they did was wrong and promise to make sure these practices don't continue, I'm just not going to buy either game. My patience has been taxed to the point that I don't care too much about them anymore.

A lesson to Japanese game localizers: the issue of American players getting a hold of translated games is no longer a "beggars can't be choosers" deal. We're not going to kiss your ass in gratitude for every precious blessing of games from Japan you deem us worthy of. (Judging from the other posts here, maybe we are. Sad.) If you don't bring the stuff over, the fan translation/emulation/homebrew scenes will eventually take care of the problem. A fan translation of the PSP game Grand Knights History was already underway before your competitors XSeed announced it. You have to earn our trust, not the other way around.

And hey, it could easily be Persona 4: Golden.

[Zoltor]

Originally Posted by Tiamat

I will certainly be pre-ordering this game and I'd like to thank Atlus for releasing it in the US. This whole thing felt rather cruel to Growlanser fans (me included) but since Atlus is teasing a new game starting with G immediately afterward I kinda think Atlus isn't mean enough to tease Growlanser fans twice consecutively like this.

After how much a dick the last poster was, I'm gonna laugh my but off, if it Isn't Growlanser.

[illogicaldreamr]

Originally Posted by Ronian

Yeah, I think almost everyone prefered Growlanser.

You're basing that off of what? I'm excited about Gungir. The only reason I was interested in Growlanser was because people were hyping it up like it's one of the best games ever, so that piqued by interest. If they do bring Growlanser, then I'll give it whirl. I played Generations a long time ago, but I honestly found it to be very boring.

[KingOfPrinces]

Is there going to be an announcement post? I was going to wait and post my excitement there.

[Dave3]

Originally Posted by HermanTuttle

Even if the second game is Growlanser, the damage is already done, and Atlus' staff have proven themselves to be unprofessional, wheedling douchebags with no respect for their customers. If they don't acknowledge what they did was wrong and promise to make sure these practices don't continue, I'm just not going to buy either game. My patience has been taxed to the point that I don't care too much about them anymore.

A lesson to Japanese game localizers: the issue of American players getting a hold of translated games is no longer a "beggars can't be choosers" deal. We're not going to kiss your ass in gratitude for every precious blessing of games from Japan you deem us worthy of. (Judging from the other posts here, maybe we are. Sad.) If you don't bring the stuff over, the fan translation/emulation/homebrew scenes will eventually take care of the problem. A fan translation of the PSP game Grand Knights History was already underway before your competitors XSeed announced it. You have to earn our trust, not the other way around.

And hey, it could easily be Persona 4: Golden.

Because Persona 4: The Golden starts with the letter G... If anything it would start with S in North America. (Shin Megami Tensei)

I'm pretty sure it's going to be Growlanser IV but if it isn't, it's not like we're entitled to have it. Get over yourself. Atlus will bring whatever games they think will make money. Not necessarily the games self entitled fans like yourself specifically want. The whole "guess our next game" thing is just supposed to be fun and if you actually got pissed about it, you're taking it WAY too seriously.

[dungeon_man]

Gungnir looks interesting, I'll pick it up. I have the other Dept Heaven games and enjoy them. Plus I love SRPGs, and Sting's games tend to have unique gameplay twists that make them stand out.



The next game could be Growlanser IV (for the record, I would be happy with that), but it could be a lot of things. We don't even know what system it will be for yet.

Game Center CX II is an unlikely, but awesome, possibility.

Also consider that names can change from the Japanese release (Yggdrasil Labyrinth became Etrian Odyssey), so this clue could be a reference to an English name we aren't yet aware of.

[Ronian]

Originally Posted by illogicaldreamr

You're basing that off of what? I'm excited about Gungir. The only reason I was interested in Growlanser was because people were hyping it up like it's one of the best games ever, so that piqued by interest. If they do bring Growlanser, then I'll give it whirl. I played Generations a long time ago, but I honestly found it to be very boring.

Reaction of most ppl in other forums. I personally think it looks like any game of the Yggdra games oO I never had a PS2 but would be interested in a Grownlanser game. Additionally, I prefer the Growlanser artstyle over the sting one any day!

[ShadowRaskolnik]

Originally Posted by Ronian

You're Reaction of most ppl in other forums. I personally think it looks like any game of the Yggdra games oO I never had a PS2 but would be interested in a Grownlanser game. Additionally, I prefer the Growlanser artstyle over the sting one any day!

I've also seen the reactions on a wide variety of forums as well and the majority of them have come from pretty much the same group of people. Not to mention that from what I've seen the opinion between which is the preferred game was pretty much split 50-50 with some siding on Gungnir and others on Growlanser.

As for artstyle I prefer the Dept Heaven series in that regard since with two main artists behind the series the style is always shifting between somewhat serious to whimsical. The Growlanser series on the otherhand seems kind of generic to me. I mean there are some charater designs that I like from the series, but everything else doesn't really capture my attention.

[KingOfPrinces]

Regarding the artwork. The Dept. Heaven Series Reminds of the Legend of Zelda Series and how each new game has a totally different artstyle.

Gungnir does an excellent job of melding the artstyles of Knights in the Nightmare and Yggdra Union together(both were already excellent artsyles).

[Tiamat]

I think the difference is that Growlanser IV has a more lofty reputation than Gungnir. It has a reputation as the best Growlanser game along with Growlanser 1. I haven't heard anything amazing about Gungnir though I'm sure I'll enjoy it a lot.

*edited this post

[Yasumi Matsuno]

Originally Posted by HermanTuttle

Even if the second game is Growlanser, the damage is already done, and Atlus' staff have proven themselves to be unprofessional, wheedling douchebags with no respect for their customers. If they don't acknowledge what they did was wrong and promise to make sure these practices don't continue, I'm just not going to buy either game. My patience has been taxed to the point that I don't care too much about them anymore.

A lesson to Japanese game localizers: the issue of American players getting a hold of translated games is no longer a "beggars can't be choosers" deal. We're not going to kiss your ass in gratitude for every precious blessing of games from Japan you deem us worthy of. (Judging from the other posts here, maybe we are. Sad.) If you don't bring the stuff over, the fan translation/emulation/homebrew scenes will eventually take care of the problem. A fan translation of the PSP game Grand Knights History was already underway before your competitors XSeed announced it. You have to earn our trust, not the other way around.

And hey, it could easily be Persona 4: Golden.

Poor you. I'm sure you will get over at it after Atlus USA announce one of the Growlanser games, then you will inevitably buy it and then play it.

[thinkfreemind]

I am glad that Atlus is localizing this game. I think all of the Growlanser fans complaining need to tone it down and relax. Atlus did nothing wrong with their Gungnir announcement campaign and I was excited for either possibility. Now Atlus is teasing what might be Growlanser IV and people are still up in arms. There is no reason for that and we aren't entitled to anything, not even us longtime Atlus fans.

[aas13ul]

[quote=Dave3;274198]

Originally Posted by HermanTuttle

Even if the second game is Growlanser, the damage is already done, and Atlus' staff have proven themselves to be unprofessional, wheedling douchebags with no respect for their customers. If they don't acknowledge what they did was wrong and promise to make sure these practices don't continue, I'm just not going to buy either game. My patience has been taxed to the point that I don't care too much about them anymore.

A lesson to Japanese game localizers: the issue of American players getting a hold of translated games is no longer a "beggars can't be choosers" deal. We're not going to kiss your ass in gratitude for every precious blessing of games from Japan you deem us worthy of. (Judging from the other posts here, maybe we are. Sad.) If you don't bring the stuff over, the fan translation/emulation/homebrew scenes will eventually take care of the problem. A fan translation of the PSP game Grand Knights History was already underway before your competitors XSeed announced it. You have to earn our trust, not the other way around.

And hey, it could easily be Persona 4: Golden.

i know your kind of stress, i have it to when bandit scamco(i mean namco bandai) would not localize tales game. just be patient, localizing a game from japanese is hard. so just be patient.

[HermanTuttle]

I have never played a Growlanser game before. I am not a "Growlanser fan" who was butthurt over "my game" not getting announced. The issue here is Atlus' loathsome bait-and-switch marketing scheme and the insulting, unprofessional conduct of their staff on these forums.

[Olethros]

Originally Posted by HermanTuttle

I have never played a Growlanser game before. I am not a "Growlanser fan" who was butthurt over "my game" not getting announced. The issue here is Atlus' loathsome bait-and-switch marketing scheme and the insulting, unprofessional conduct of their staff on these forums.

You are easily the most self-entitled and self-aggrandizing "person" I've run across here yet, and that is TRULY saying something.

Oh, and just for future reference in case you ever intend to try and sound intelligent again (I don't recommend it): If you're going to accuse people of being unprofessional and insulting you should probably stick with better manners and certainly use better terminology than "butthurt". It gives away the fact that you're a poorly educated child trying to sound grown up and important. FYI.

[izanagi_the_creator]

Thanks for localizing Gungnir.

I was expecting Gungnir all along even though I had hope it would be Growlanser IV. Oh well..

[kratoscar2008]

Im a growlanser fan and im not dissapointed since i would eventually played the japanese one in some time. I am already adapted to play japanese games with a guide in my Celphone (pretty much the sole porpuse of that buy) and i have already played 5 growlansers in japanese so no problem there. About gungnir i dont even seen the promo or preview of the game so im not shaken by that anouncement (It was almost espected). But Atlus should be careful there is not hatred worst that of the fanboys (We growlanser fans are better than that i think).

[mjemirzian]

Originally Posted by Olethros

You are easily the most self-entitled and self-aggrandizing "person" I've run across here yet, and that is TRULY saying something.

I must not be trying hard enough.