Growlanser Previews

[daveyd]

There's 3 currently positive previews for WoT on Gamestop.com. If you have a few mins consider telling people why you're psyched for this game. You never know, you may help convince someone who has never heard of Growlanser to give this one a shot. Gamestop also lets you recommend similar games so if you review any other good RPGs you can recommend Growlanser titles.

If you know of any other game stores / sites that let users post previews, let us know in this thread and I'll update the original post.

Sites that let you post previews:

Gamestop.com / ebgames.com
VGP
Walmart.com

[kratoscar2008]

Originally Posted by daveyd

There's 3 currently positive previews for WoT on Gamestop.com. If you have a few mins consider telling people why you're psyched for this game. You never know, you may help convince someone who has never heard of Growlanser to give this one a shot. VGP also lets your write previews. If you know of any other game stores / sites that let users post previews, let us know in this thread.

Well i have only played the ps2 version still should i do a preview of the psp one only based in what i have played in the ps2 one?.

Normally i could careless what those game sites say but i know there are people that actually chose the games they will play based on those reviews so is worth a shot.

[daveyd]

Originally Posted by kratoscar2008

Well i have only played the ps2 version still should i do a preview of the psp one only based in what i have played in the ps2 one?.

Normally i could careless what those game sites say but i know there are people that actually chose the games they will play based on those reviews so is worth a shot.

Absolutely. As one of the few English speaking people who has actually played the original PS2 version I'd say your impressions the game could carry sway some people who are on the fence about this one. So far all of the previews are from people who liked Growlanser Generations / Heritage of War.

[kratoscar2008]

Originally Posted by daveyd

Absolutely. As one of the few English speaking people who has actually played the original PS2 version I'd say your impressions the game could carry sway some people who are on the fence about this one. So far all of the previews are from people who liked Growlanser Generations / Heritage of War.

Already do one for Game Stop. There is a place where i can post a full review?. The Gamestop one is too short.

[daveyd]

Originally Posted by kratoscar2008

Already do one for Game Stop. There is a place where i can post a full review?. The Gamestop one is too short.

You could post your (p)review at Walmart.com since they have WoT available for pre-order. (I don't think Walmart has any limit to how long reviews can be).

Once the game is actually released we'll be able to post reviews on gamespot.com, epinions.com, gamefaqs.com and amazon.com.

[izanagi_the_creator]

If only ATLUS USA releases a demo, it would be more effective than our voices combined promoting the game..

[Rebel40000]

Was there even a demo for the Japanese version?

[daveyd]

Originally Posted by Rebel40000

Was there even a demo for the Japanese version?

I don't think so. I have no idea if that means Atlus USA cannot release one. How often are demos released for PSP games anyway?

I am sure they will at least post trailer/s on youtube once we get closer to release, as they seem to do that for most of their games. A lot of people seem to decide whether or not to buy a game based on hype / perceived popularity... i.e., people get excited for upcoming Elder Scrolls / Final Fantasy games long before there are any demos, trailers, or even screenshots. For now I think it is up to Growlanser fans to spread the word any way we can. I think the more pre-orders there are for this game, the more inclined Atlus will be to market it later on.

[Brandon]

I was one of them that posted a review on Gamestop. I was thinking about telling everyone here they should do that (at least review the series as a whole) if they want to try to help boost sales. If Atlus would have announced Growlanser IV earlier, they could have put a demo on the Persona 2 UMD. They still have the opportunity to put it on Gungnir though *hint hint*. kinda curious why people don't do that anymore...

[daveyd]

Originally Posted by Brandon

I was one of them that posted a review on Gamestop. I was thinking about telling everyone here they should do that (at least review the series as a whole) if they want to try to help boost sales. If Atlus would have announced Growlanser IV earlier, they could have put a demo on the Persona 2 UMD. They still have the opportunity to put it on Gungnir though *hint hint*. kinda curious why people don't do that anymore...

Could it be an issue with UMD capacity? UMDs hold 900MB (single layer) and 1.8 GB (dual layer), which is a lot less than a DVD or Blu-ray but I have no idea how much space these games take up.

It would be totally sweet if Gungnir UMDs had a Growlanser demo and vice versa. I'm still on the fence about whether or not to get Gungnir. Perhaps producing demos is far more costly than us laypeople realize.

[DamageCity]

Reviews are such a bore.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by daveyd

Could it be an issue with UMD capacity? UMDs hold 900MB (single layer) and 1.8 GB (dual layer), which is a lot less than a DVD or Blu-ray but I have no idea how much space these games take up.

It would be totally sweet if Gungnir UMDs had a Growlanser demo and vice versa. I'm still on the fence about whether or not to get Gungnir. Perhaps producing demos is far more costly than us laypeople realize.

Well, I'm sure there would be some space left on the UMD after Gungnir was put on it. Just like taking the voices out of Growlanser would free up some space. As far as expenses go, I doubt it would cost too much more. I would assume that all you'd have to do is practically copy/paste a certain portion of the game and then maybe program some sort of tutorial or demo-only menus, etc. I could be wrong about the whole thing though.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by DamageCity

Reviews are such a bore.

Word of mouth sells though. It's been proven, so it doesn't hurt to try.

[daveyd]

Originally Posted by Brandon

Word of mouth sells though. It's been proven, so it doesn't hurt to try.

Exactly, p/reviews can make or break a game since it is usually all anyone who isn't already a fan of a series has to go on... Heritage of War got lukewarm reviews and didn't sell nearly as well as Generations.

Although, maybe we should include screens / character art with our previews to convince other people like DC who only like games with large breasted females to give this game a shot. Boobs sell, too.

[Iris]

Originally Posted by Brandon

I was one of them that posted a review on Gamestop. I was thinking about telling everyone here they should do that (at least review the series as a whole) if they want to try to help boost sales. If Atlus would have announced Growlanser IV earlier, they could have put a demo on the Persona 2 UMD. They still have the opportunity to put it on Gungnir though *hint hint*. kinda curious why people don't do that anymore...

I don't think Atlus USA does a lot of actual coding/technical stuff themselves, though, do they? I thought I remembered one of the staff saying that they actually send their translated script back to the JP branch to be inserted and coded into the game. (Someone correct me if I remembered this wrong, by all means.)

And if that is the case, then being able to offer a demo of anything would have much more to do with whether the JP branch had ever offered one.

[Olethros]

You're exactly right Iris. In fact, I believe the NA branch of Atlus has exactly zero coders, etc. They rely on the developer of each game to insert their translations, fix bugs that are found, etc, etc.

Bottom line then for this thread is that they could only offer a demo if the JPN version had one and then only if they could convince them to make the necessary changes for NA. Getting it added to a different game entirely has no chance of happening either.

[Leilee]

If you guys are real serious about spreading the word, I'd post more on your blogs or social media sites and stuff about it. Make some videos talking about playing it and whatnot.

Or hang out on other forums that care to talk about RPG's.

But be careful not to come off too zealous, that is a major turnoff for many. ^-^

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by Olethros

You're exactly right Iris. In fact, I believe the NA branch of Atlus has exactly zero coders, etc. They rely on the developer of each game to insert their translations, fix bugs that are found, etc, etc.

Bottom line then for this thread is that they could only offer a demo if the JPN version had one and then only if they could convince them to make the necessary changes for NA. Getting it added to a different game entirely has no chance of happening either.

That's crazy. I didn't know that. I assumed that they would have had a few programers. Like how Working Designs always cleaned up the games they worked on. I remember reading one of the reviews for Growlanser Generations and the guy said that it made the Japanese versions of II and III look like betas. Working Designs even put in a demo of Lunar 2 in Silhouette Mirage.

[kurama]

If only ATLUS USA releases a demo, it would be more effective than our voices combined promoting the game..

[kratoscar2008]

Its a shame that i dont have my ps2 with me right now if i had i would do a review in Video. I think with a single mission people will love the game. Besides my english isnt good so i had to put subtitles maybe in April when i will have my ps2 i will do it.

Originally Posted by Olethros
You're exactly right Iris. In fact, I believe the NA branch of Atlus has exactly zero coders, etc. They rely on the developer of each game to insert their translations, fix bugs that are found, etc, etc.

Bottom line then for this thread is that they could only offer a demo if the JPN version had one and then only if they could convince them to make the necessary changes for NA. Getting it added to a different game entirely has no chance of happening either.
That's crazy. I didn't know that. I assumed that they would have had a few programers. Like how Working Designs always cleaned up the games they worked on. I remember reading one of the reviews for Growlanser Generations and the guy said that it made the Japanese versions of II and III look like betas. Working Designs even put in a demo of Lunar 2 in Silhouette Mirage.

I have played the jp grow 2 and 3 and the only difference are in the options menu and the shortcuts (L2 L1 R2 and so forth). I think that they could add with a single mission (Maybe in psn) to promote the series.

[Brandon]

I have played the jp grow 2 and 3 and the only difference are in the options menu and the shortcuts (L2 L1 R2 and so forth). I think that they could add with a single mission (Maybe in psn) to promote the series.[/quote]

They did have the auto-battle (which I don't care about) and the voice on/off options (which I love), even for select characters. But yeah, probably nothing too big. I did always love the outtakes they did though.

I would think Atlus could do a PSN demo but they didn't do one for Persona 2 did they? I'm not sure. If they didn't, they probably wouldn't do one for Growlanser.

[cj iwakura]

Originally Posted by Brandon

That's crazy. I didn't know that. I assumed that they would have had a few programers. Like how Working Designs always cleaned up the games they worked on. I remember reading one of the reviews for Growlanser Generations and the guy said that it made the Japanese versions of II and III look like betas. Working Designs even put in a demo of Lunar 2 in Silhouette Mirage.

This is also why Working Designs games tended to take forever and a day to come out, since they had a tendency to tear games apart as needed, and rebuild them as necessary; see Magic Knight Rayearth's translation notes.

I don't think any other localization company would have been crazy enough to undertake the amount of effort that had to require.

[daveyd]

Originally Posted by Leilee

If you guys are real serious about spreading the word, I'd post more on your blogs or social media sites and stuff about it. Make some videos talking about playing it and whatnot.

Or hang out on other forums that care to talk about RPG's.

But be careful not to come off too zealous, that is a major turnoff for many. ^-^

I find it somewhat encouraging that a lot of the RPG related forums that I've checked (Neogaf, rpgamer, gamespot, etc.) already have a thread about the announcement for the game and at least a couple fans jumping for joy. They could certainly use some more posts though.

Once Atlus releases a trailer we can share it on facebook, twitter, etc.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by cj iwakura

This is also why Working Designs games tended to take forever and a day to come out, since they had a tendency to tear games apart as needed, and rebuild them as necessary; see Magic Knight Rayearth's translation notes.

I don't think any other localization company would have been crazy enough to undertake the amount of effort that had to require.

I really like when companies do little bits here and there that should be cleaned up, but I will agree with you; Working Designs did too much. Especially for how much money they weren't making.

[kratoscar2008]

Originally Posted by Brandon

I really like when companies do little bits here and there that should be cleaned up, but I will agree with you; Working Designs did too much. Especially for how much money they weren't making.

Yeah they removed a lot of things like the chance to rename Carmaine in Grow 2 and Slayn in Grow 3. Im thankfull for the localization though.